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Sam Gerrans's avatar

Paid subscribers (such as Anon1 in this thread) have the right to express themselves in the comments so long as it is does not descend into spam or unhinged venting, or contain links to unrelated subjects.

People will disagree on certain points, and that's understood. But if they demonstrate that they have understood the point of the talk first (which here is about how propaganda is constructed in order to make women delusional) that will strengthen their case.

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I understand how propaganda works and I don't disagree with your main points and I'm sorry for leaving so many comments. But as a woman I was really interested to hear more exactly how women are destroying their families and what are they supposed to stop doing. Yes, it's propaganda, but this is an article about a woman who's not working much outside the home that will probably be read by women working outside the home a lot more but who can relate to still doing all the chores and cleaning up, cooking etc. Especially when you said the Indian woman must be a bad manager and didn't give much grace or mention the fact many women today are completely overburdened by having to work full time and still do majority of housework, cooking, and childcare, it just failed to connect or lead to any point about propaganda for me. There are also lazy women, there are women who don't work and don't do any housework either but imho they're a tiny minority or dealing with serious health issues. You did say you're not going to argue that working women should get help with chores so there is a bit of grace for women I guess but that's not how it is in the East.

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Ben's avatar

I concur that the direct control of men, is often ineffective. Instead, there is a strategy of influencing women, who are more prone to influence, as a way of ultimately controlling men. Unfortunately, this same tactic is now being widely applied to most aspects of society. The spread of this manipulative approach is pervasive throughout Western culture, with potentially dire consequences.

It has become clear to me that when a society begins to embrace and celebrate immoral behavior, such as sodomy, it is a clear sign that the end of that civilization is near. This principle is also outlined in the Quran.

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Sam Gerrans's avatar

I agree on all points, Ben. It has been said that if God does not destroy the world today, He might need to go back to Sodom and Gomorrah and apologise.

For those who wish to see my fuller thoughts in context, that work can be downloaded free here: https://quranite.com/the-god-protocol/

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PT's avatar

The manipulation is not restricted to the west. I can see it being promoted in the east as well and at an accelerated rate. Movies, TV shows you name it, the script is all scripted!

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Anon1's avatar

You can't even argue about chores with many men in the East lol. It's not up for debate but in the other direction lol, they will NOT do any chores or help with any cleaning and they probably don't know how or refuse to clean up after themselves, even if the woman is also working outside the home 7 days a week. They will not even wash their own dishes lol, a woman has to lol. Sorry speaking from experience here lol, I have family members like that and I love them but not easy to live with.

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Anon1's avatar

It's not easy or sustainable to be cleaning up after other people non-stop who should be at least cleaning up after themselves and doing all the general chores, cooking, and child care on top of that, and I'm pretty sure in India that's women's lives. It's not about being a bad manager.

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Anon1's avatar

She's in India, she's probably expected to wait on her husband hand and foot and clean up after him non-stop to the point he'd be upset if she left the house for a bit. If the woman is not working but the man is I don't think she should be upset about doing majority of the housework. But women in the west are expected to work full-time and for some still get zero help with housework. Many women literally barely get a break in their day. I read somewhere the average break/time to herself for a working woman I think with children is 17 min/day. That is crazy.

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